Socialist Phalanx promotional posters

Now that we have changed the url of the website to www.socialistphalanx.com , I think the according changes ought to be made in the posters you guys have posted as well.

Btw, here's a picture I made:

Spoiler:

I've got to say that this one is by far the best one I've seen. All of the other ones thus far have emphasized our socialism well, but not so much our nationalism. The problem with the "Phalanx Man" in our banner (if I may be allowed to call him that) and the white hands in the "Working Class" image is that racially white figures have been used in Soviet sans-nationalist and Western-cosmopolitan propaganda for so long that the passerby is not going to take away any sense of nationalism from the image.

This one however declares itself as working class with the big title and red flag right off the bat, but upon reading the slogan, we're hit by a nationally and ethnically aware message. The sunny landscape, before simply seeming to indicate a cliche dreamy vision of socialism, suddenly becomes a virgin European homeland for white people. Definitely good.

By the way, I feel hypocritical to critique others' artwork but not having the skills to produce any worthwhile images of my own. I just hope any suggestions I offer can steer our more talented members ina productive direction.

Xanthochroid wrote:I've got to say that this one is by far the best one I've seen. All of the other ones thus far have emphasized our socialism well, but not so much our nationalism. The problem with the "Phalanx Man" in our banner (if I may be allowed to call him that) and the white hands in the "Working Class" image is that racially white figures have been used in Soviet sans-nationalist and Western-cosmopolitan propaganda for so long that the passerby is not going to take away any sense of nationalism from the image.

Left-wing nationalism is not exclusively limited to European Caucasians. The ideological framework of this forum is open to all peoples, however they may happen to identify themselves.

With respect to Godfaesten's promotional poster, while I am fond of its aesthetic qualities, I disagree with its emphasis on "ethnic preservation". The 'nation', insofar as left-wing nationalism is concerned, is more of an elastic (relative, if you will) concept. It needn't be reduced to some rigid, anachronistic biological criterion — which is essentially incapable of adapting itself to contemporary social contexts throughout the world. In fact, I challenge you to cite one example of a nation that has not assimilated foreign elements into its ethnocultural constitution.

The aim of establishing future nations that are completely biologically homogeneous is an impractical fantasy. Not only is it impossible to realize such a vision and remain consistent with revolutionary socialist and left-wing nationalist principles, but no real social impetus exists to establish such a construct in any political fashion. Basically, it's an ideological non-starter that is destined to be perpetually confined to the fringes of society.

I like Godfaestan's poster, although I prefer much more militant ones

I find the prominence of the landscape in the image quite powerful. Many propaganda (in the most earnest and positive sense of the term) posters feature stirring words and artistic renditions, but not many simply present a wildland valley as a backdrop. Yes, it could be part of a homeland, but for many it stands as a reality on its own, the ground of being from which we came and shall return.

Admin wrote:With respect to Godfaesten's promotional poster, while I am fond of its aesthetic qualities, I disagree with its emphasis on "ethnic preservation". The 'nation', insofar as left-wing nationalism is concerned, is more of an elastic (relative, if you will) concept. It needn't be reduced to some rigid, anachronistic biological criterion — which is essentially incapable of adapting itself to contemporary social contexts throughout the world. In fact, I challenge you to cite one example of a nation that has not assimilated foreign elements into its ethnocultural constitution.

It is fair enough to say that nation's and ethnic groups throughout history have assimilated foreign elements in their cultures. It is this assimilation that brought us to the present day nation's and ethnic groups. Xanthrochoid's and mine, and I am sure many other's, objection to what is going on today is the widespread destruction of the Euro ethnic-culture by vastly different ethnic groups. It is fair to say that the Indo-Europeans who had invaded and spread their culture, religion, and language throughout Europe were not vastly different from the European population (tribes) already settled there. Today it is much different. We have the assimilation by people's vastly different than us, and while miscegenation may represent no real threat, mass immigration certainly does. We are faced with the destruction of a unique European phenotype and genotype.

The aim of establishing future nations that are completely biologically homogeneous is an impractical fantasy. Not only is it impossible to realize such a vision and remain consistent with revolutionary socialist and left-wing nationalist principles, but no real social impetus exists to establish such a construct in any political fashion. Basically, it's an ideological non-starter that is destined to be perpetually confined to the fringes of society.

Certainly it is impractical to be completely biologically homogeneous, but it is also silly to deny that one of the main goals of nationalism was and has always been ethnic preservation. Nationalism is all the more relevant today in the face of uncontrolled mass immigration that threatens to destroy the diversity of all ethnic groups involved.

My issue with Godfaesten's poster is that it's a bit short on the socialism. The red flag is nice, but 'national liberation' sounds more like emphasis on national solidarity and self-determination. That's all excellent, but I think there should be more explicit references to socialism in whatever slogan/image is used.

Admin wrote:In fact, I challenge you to cite one example of a nation that has not assimilated foreign elements into its ethnocultural constitution.

Easy, I can think of several dozens: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Uncontacted_peoples

Thank you, Pantheon Rising.

RedSun wrote:My issue with Godfaesten's poster is that it's a bit short on the socialism. The red flag is nice, but 'national liberation' sounds more like emphasis on national solidarity and self-determination. That's all excellent, but I think there should be more explicit references to socialism in whatever slogan/image is used.

I agree that a poster emphasizing the social aspect would be great, I don't see a problem with emphasizing nationalism or socialism separately either though.

That's perfectly reasonable, but I think it would also be in our interests to create posters showing the harmony between the two ideologies.

Also, regarding the 'national preservation' issue, despite the fact that it's the European countries with the greatest issues of immigration, it's also important to remember the extent to which the modern globalised, capitalist pseudo-culture is taking over all of the nations, all races included. An example of this was given by Pantheon Rising in 'Kim Jong-il has died', contrasting the thriving Korean culture in the DPRK with the essentially Westernised Republic of (South) Korea.

RedSun wrote:That's perfectly reasonable, but I think it would also be in our interests to create posters showing the harmony between the two ideologies.

I agree.

Also, regarding the 'national preservation' issue, despite the fact that it's the European countries with the greatest issues of immigration, it's also important to remember the extent to which the modern globalised, capitalist pseudo-culture is taking over all of the nations, all races included. An example of this was given by Pantheon Rising in 'Kim Jong-il has died', contrasting the thriving Korean culture in the DPRK with the essentially Westernised Republic of (South) Korea.

Definitely. National liberation and ethnic preservation should apply to everyone. Korean, Chinese, African, German, Polish, Mexican etc.

Xanthochroid wrote:The problem with the "Phalanx Man" in our banner (if I may be allowed to call him that) and the white hands in the "Working Class" image is that racially white figures have been used in Soviet sans-nationalist and Western-cosmopolitan propaganda for so long that the passerby is not going to take away any sense of nationalism from the image.

As others have pointed out, this forum wasn't designed exclusively for those of European ancestry. With respect to the issue of socialist propaganda more generally, I see no purpose in emphasizing nationalism at this time. I've addressed this issue more thoroughly elsewhere, so I'll simply note that the conditions conducive to national revolutionary development are absent in most of the nations constituting the global north today. Thus, it's more productive to focus our energies toward assisting in the development of the proletarian revolution at this point in time.

Nice work, Modgardener.

Minimalist poster.

Admin, that poser is the sex. I was about to say we need some good posters and stuff to attract people, and I think that would do perfectly. I love the whole black & red (and grey) theme that this site sticks to. But anyway, do we actually have these up on any sites yet? We definitely need more members. I've only seen a few videos for us on YouTube, so maybe it'd be a good idea to put up a few more, though I've no idea what they'd be about.

DSN wrote:Admin, that poser is the sex. I was about to say we need some good posters and stuff to attract people, and I think that would do perfectly. I love the whole black & red (and grey) theme that this site sticks to. But anyway, do we actually have these up on any sites yet? We definitely need more members. I've only seen a few videos for us on YouTube, so maybe it'd be a good idea to put up a few more, though I've no idea what they'd be about.

Thank you for the kind words. As of right now, I am not aware of our posters being featured on any other websites. However, I encourage our members to distribute them as best they see fit. [I would also encourage members to print out these images as flyers and distribute them in that particular format.]

I intend on getting to work on some new SP videos when I have the free time.

Here is an updated version of the flyer. [If you cannot see the full image, simply right-click the picture and select the 'view image' option.]

I think that one does look a lot better with the bolder outline on the rest of the font.

I just thought of a punk CD shop in Camden me and my friend went to where the were a few ads not related to music (vegetarianism/environmentalism), and what better place to advertise something left-wing than a record store full of punk music? I doubt the word 'nationalism' would go down well with most people there though. Just an idea.

The thread concerning the online radio station we were hoping to start mentions music, so maybe that could act as advertising if any members or friends of members who are musicians were willing to advertise the site in return. "Hear us on ----- this Friday at 7pm" or something of the sort. It probably wouldn't do a lot, but at least it wouldn't cost anything like putting adverts on other websites.

Or we could just help out some comrades by paying for adverts to be put up on a few leftist clothing stores and other things of that nature.

DSN wrote:I think that one does look a lot better with the bolder outline on the rest of the font.

Thank you. I agree.

I just thought of a punk CD shop in Camden me and my friend went to where the were a few ads not related to music (vegetarianism/environmentalism), and what better place to advertise something left-wing than a record store full of punk music? I doubt the word 'nationalism' would go down well with most people there though. Just an idea.

Interesting idea. Coming from a background in the punk scene as well, I can see the potential in that sort of thing. The fluidity of the word 'nationalism' is such that it would indeed be ill advised to employ it in those instances in which one is attempting to make overtures to most individuals on left—which, in its present form, is characterized by the dominance of cosmopolitan values and an irrational apprehension towards virtually anything branding itself as 'national'.

If you'd like, I could make an alternate version of the poster which features a suitable euphemism or replacement. Let me know if you have any specific ideas or suggestions regarding that.

The thread concerning the online radio station we were hoping to start mentions music, so maybe that could act as advertising if any members or friends of members who are musicians were willing to advertise the site in return. "Hear us on ----- this Friday at 7pm" or something of the sort. It probably wouldn't do a lot, but at least it wouldn't cost anything like putting adverts on other websites.

Another interesting idea. Once there is a sufficient level of commitment amongst members of the forum—e.g. members suggesting or sharing enough audio content to build a decent playlist—I think it may generate some appeal amongst musicians.

Or we could just help out some comrades by paying for adverts to be put up on a few leftist clothing stores and other things of that nature.

That's true. We could start a donation drive to finance such growth initiatives. Up to this point, there hasn't much much of an appetite for that sort of thing, but that may begin to change if members can see some successful examples of it in practice.

Admin wrote:If you'd like, I could make an alternate version of the poster which features a suitable euphemism or replacement. Let me know if you have any specific ideas or suggestions regarding that.

Well, if people think they're "punk" or "intelligent" enough to see past propaganda and not listen to what they're always told, maybe we could get them to open up a bit with the right questions. People are easily stunned when they come to understand that they have something the completely wrong way around, just like myself when I first looked into communism. This sounds quite cheesy, but as a rough idea of what I mean:


Again, quite a crappy way of wording it, but to a lot of people it's like telling them their bacon didn't come from a pig.

That's true. We could start a donation drive to finance such growth initiatives. Up to this point, there hasn't much much of an appetite for that sort of thing, but that may begin to change if members can see some successful examples of it in practice.

Well we have the problem of chasing our own tails here... we want funding to help attract more members, but for funding to be of any real help we need more members.

Very nice, Admin. When we do start advertising the website, are we planning on using more than one of these?