RevLeft discovers the Socialist Phalanx

So i found this website...

Apparently, the crass characters over at RevLeft have finally discovered our humble forum. As one would naturally expect, the 'consensus' being reached is deprived of a sufficient analytical context. They use the fact that we are more tolerant of divergent opinions as evidence of some fascistic/racist foundation. (They would do well to actually consult our FAQ, Guidelines, and Restrictions and Bannings threads before jumping to any conclusions.)

And, of course, who can forget the fact that Spanish reactionaries also used the word 'Phalanx' (Falange) for their fascistic movement. I suppose the fact that the word 'socialist' is also in our title is additional evidence of 'fascism', due to the fact that the Nazis were National Socialists!

Good day Rev left lurkers hope you enjoy browising the forum and Frothing at the Mouth.

Any Idea if SF has found us yet it would be intresting to be critisised from the liberal left and the reactionary right.Good times

Why should I blame them for coming to such conclusions?
Look at the majority of the forum active membership and much of what it posts!
Fascist and Strasserite shit is everywhere here. I'm sick of it, and I ain't the only one.

Coach wrote:Why should I blame them for coming to such conclusions?
Look at the majority of the forum active membership and much of what it posts!
Fascist and Strasserite shit is everywhere here. I'm sick of it, and I ain't the only one.

Do you honestly believe if we made a policy wherein we banned all Strasserists that our reception at RevLeft would be any better? You really think those imbeciles are capable of appreciating the nuances of left-wing nationalism? Having browsed through that forum for years, I can unequivocally state that their impression of us would remain exactly the same:

"ZOMG!!!1! They say they believe in nationalism and we all know nationalism is fascist! 'Phalanx' is the English translation of 'Falange,' (Franco's fascist party) ergo, they're Falangistas! Just like the Nazis, using the name 'socialism' to deceive the working-class into supporting reactionary politics..."

RevLeft literally bans people for daring to question the logic behind mass immigration, let alone expressing any doubt behind the desirability of cosmopolitanism. They've already called your tendency a "contradiction," so don't delude yourself into thinking it's just the Strasserists they have an issue with. Moreover, the Strasserist members of this forum, for the most part, keep an open mind and have expressed a genuine desire to learn. Whatever post any member writes which violates our guidelines is immediately sent to the 'Opposing Views' section, and there we have the choice to debate them. Personally, I think it's a fine policy.

Coach wrote:Why should I blame them for coming to such conclusions?
Look at the majority of the forum active membership and much of what it posts!
Fascist and Strasserite shit is everywhere here. I'm sick of it, and I ain't the only one.

Thats the spirit comrade united front and all that hey

RevLeft is a de facto dictatorship where any deviation from the "party line" equates to a trip to the OV, or a ban, so i wouldn't bother much with what their membership thinks of us and our policy. Besides, the most vocal members there are clearly more worried with pushing their personal agendas than with any working or precariat class, hence why i never bothered to register, and rarely browse their forum.

From RevLeft:

svenne wrote:On a somewhat more serious and scary note, i really can't see much difference between them, and some proponents of African socialism, Arab socialism and other ideologies, which combines anti-imperialism with vague ideas of socialism.

Observe the straw man he's creating in order to equate what we promote with Third Positionist nonsense, like Gaddafi's "Green Socialism." I'd really like to know precisely how we're "vague" about the socialism we espouse. I find such an accusation absolutely hilarious, considering the vast preponderance of RevLeft purposely avoids mention of how a post-capitalist economy will function, since Marx occasionally suggested that "recipes for the cookshops of the future" are "utopian."

As long as they're just a bunch of kids without influence in the labor movement, social movements or anything like that, we should propably just ignore them.

Like the members of RevLeft (and the various miniscule "political parties" they belong to) have any serious influence in the labor movement..

LOL at you, dear fascists.

He nailed us! We're clearly corporativists.

I'd like to welcome the many new guests here from RevLeft. It's about time you showed up!
Engage us if you are serious about revolutionary socialism.

Coach wrote:I'd like to welcome the many new guests here from RevLeft. It's about time you showed up!
Engage us if you are serious about revolutionary socialism.

I second that!

Coach wrote:I'd like to welcome the many new guests here from RevLeft. It's about time you showed up!
Engage us if you are serious about revolutionary socialism.

Let's have real debates here, that can't be held fairly where you came from.

Yes, I love this. Phalanx = Falange = Falangists = Fascists

We are, for all practical purposes, an entirely new left-wing movement. There is little purpose in squabbling over legitimacy with such ignoramuses as can typically be found on RevLeft. They have, in a relatively short thread, managed to wholly discredit themselves. Their "analysis" with regard to the position of our forum and the subsequent attempts at discounting our views have thus far proceeded so laughably that it borders upon reaction.

If any RevLeft members who might be following this thread care to grace our forum with a lively debate, please join us in the "Cosmopolitan" section of Opposing Views.

I like this game.
Socialist Workers Party = National Socialist German Workers Party = Fascists!

Godfaesten wrote:Socialist Workers Party = National Socialist German Workers Party = Fascists!

How did I fail to notice that for so long?! It all makes sense, drop the "National" to deceive the workers. Alex Callinicos is obviously a closeted Nazi.



Notice the black shirt this fascist typically wears. Not so subtle, Alex..

Celtiberian wrote:How did I fail to notice that for so long?! It all makes sense, drop the "National" to deceive the workers. Alex Callinicos is obviously a closeted Nazi.



Notice the black shirt this fascist typically wears. Not so subtle, Alex..

?
Doh, I was so blind, but now I can see it too!
He kinda resembles Tony Blair too! Coincidence?

Celtiberian wrote:How did I fail to notice that for so long?! It all makes sense, drop the "National" to deceive the workers. Alex Callinicos is obviously a closeted Nazi.



Notice the black shirt this fascist typically wears. Not so subtle, Alex..

Cheers comrade I just spat tea all over my keyboard

TheocWulf wrote:Good day Rev left lurkers hope you enjoy browising the forum and Frothing at the Mouth.

Any Idea if SF has found us yet it would be intresting to be critisised from the liberal left and the reactionary right.Good times

They already did find us. A lot of people here were banned from that cess pool called SF. Check this thread:

http://www.socialistphalanx.com/t6-reactionary-wn-threads?highlight=reactionary

As for RevLeft, my account was banned over there. They have so many groups irrelevant to the working class and socialism it is ridiculous. Like a group for homosexuals and "Sexual Freedomists". I have nothing against homosexuals or the like, you're free to do what you want, but how exactly does ANY of that relate to the working class struggle against capitalism?

Pantheon Rising wrote:They already did find us. A lot of people here were banned from that cess pool called SF. Check this thread:

http://www.socialistphalanx.com/t6-reactionary-wn-threads?highlight=reactionary

As for RevLeft, my account was banned over there. They have so many groups irrelevant to the working class and socialism it is ridiculous. Like a group for homosexuals and "Sexual Freedomists". I have nothing against homosexuals or the like, you're free to do what you want, but how exactly does ANY of that relate to the working class struggle against capitalism?

Thanks comrade
BTW why the change in user name?

Pantheon Rising wrote:As for RevLeft, my account was banned over there. They have so many groups irrelevant to the working class and socialism it is ridiculous. Like a group for homosexuals and "Sexual Freedomists". I have nothing against homosexuals or the like, you're free to do what you want, but how exactly does ANY of that relate to the working class struggle against capitalism?

It doesn't, that's why i consider such wasting of time with side arguments such as those, and making them "central struggle issues", instead of the obvious struggle against capitalism, a clever ploy from the status quo to render the "left" useless, and laughable.

TheocWulf wrote:Thanks comrade
BTW why the change in user name?

Anytime.

It is a name I use everywhere on the internet, I guess cause I like it and so people can identify me on other sites. My account on SF was still active and I know there are trolls from SF that come and lurk on the forums here, so I chose another name to remain under the radar. My account was banned for being a "commie" on SF now, so I see no reason to hide my name anymore.

Pantheon Rising wrote:Anytime.

It is a name I use everywhere on the internet, I guess cause I like it and so people can identify me on other sites. My account on SF was still active and I know there are trolls from SF that come and lurk on the forums here, so I chose another name to remain under the radar. My account was banned for being a "commie" on SF now, so I see no reason to hide my name anymore.

Fair one mate

Leon Mcnichol wrote:It doesn't, that's why i consider such wasting of time with side arguments such as those, and making them "central struggle issues", instead of the obvious struggle against capitalism, a clever ploy from the status quo to render the "left" useless, and laughable.

Yes, I highly doubt capitalists are out there to oppress homosexuals. The ruling class will treat you like dirt no matter your sexual preference, and no matter your race or ethnicity or your spiritual life for that matter.

Also, I find their concentration on "white supremacy" of the ruling class highly hypocritical considering their cosmopolitan views.

I love the fact they allow companies to adveritse and sell T shirts on the site

svenne wrote:On a somewhat more serious and scary note, i really can't see much difference between them, and some proponents of African socialism, Arab socialism and other ideologies, which combines anti-imperialism with vague ideas of socialism.

I love how the pluralism of this forum is repeatedly criticized by the RevLeft pedagogues on that absurd thread. Are those individuals forgetting the innumerable tendencies found on their forum? Not only is the ideological basis of RevLeft (intentionally) vague, but many of the ideologies found there are inherently incompatible with one another (e.g. Anarcho-Syndicalists, Stalinists, etc. all collectively participating in the same frivolous conversations about how 'sexist' the missionary position is, the outstanding need to reclaim the word 'slut', and numerous other critical issues that resonate with the international proletariat ).

Get it straight. The Socialist Phalanx is not a political movement; it's a forum for revolutionary socialists and left-wing nationalists. That criterion suggests that there will be a certain level ideological heterogeneity found here. Dismissing this entire forum as 'fascist' on the basis of a few members who happen to be heterodox Strasserists is therefore no more rational than dismissing RevLeft as a 'Stalinist' forum on the basis of the Stalninsts who happen to be members there (no offense to Stalinists; just making a point).

The simple fact that they spout accusations to assert their "superiority", without even coming here to debate or ask directly just shows how infantile, and downright "poser" their membership are. Some user there even accuse us of being sexist. Heaven only knows how that came up...