Would you like to react to this message? Create an account in a few clicks or log in to continue.

The 18th Brumaire of Barack Obama

3 posters

 :: General :: Lounge

Go down

The 18th Brumaire of Barack Obama Empty The 18th Brumaire of Barack Obama

Post by Coach Wed Aug 03, 2011 11:56 pm

http://www.workers-party.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=200:the-18th-brumaire-of-barack-obama&catid=1:latest-news&Itemid=53

Since the middle of the 19th century, the term “18th Brumaire” has become synonymous with the historical moment when democratic legislative power (nominal or real) is usurped by a small group or individual. No better description of this move to establish a “Super Congress” by the White House and Congressional leaders can be made. For all intents and purposes, what we are seeing take shape in Washington today is the 18th Brumaire of Barack Obama — the replacement of the existing Congress with a body that votes on the laws drafted by the “Super Congress,” but cannot discuss or amend them, and Obama standing alone as the First Consul, accountable only to his masters in the alliance of exploiters and oppressors.
What are your thoughts on this essay's position?
Coach
Coach
_________________________
_________________________

Tendency : socialist-nationalist/revolutionary Trotskyist
Posts : 259
Reputation : 133
Join date : 2011-04-02
Location : US Midwest

Back to top Go down

The 18th Brumaire of Barack Obama Empty Re: The 18th Brumaire of Barack Obama

Post by Altair Thu Aug 04, 2011 3:16 am

This is indeed possible, and is steadily proving itself to be a reality that we will all be forced to witness. If such a thing were to fully come into existence, it would certainly make the general population even more distrustful of our current system and its upholders. But do you think this will make it easier for our beliefs to gain a foothold with the public?
Altair
Altair
________________________
________________________

Tendency : Revolutionary Syndicalist
Posts : 205
Reputation : 246
Join date : 2011-07-15
Age : 29

Back to top Go down

The 18th Brumaire of Barack Obama Empty Re: The 18th Brumaire of Barack Obama

Post by Isakenaz Thu Aug 04, 2011 9:40 am

I didn't fully understand it, but then it pertains to the American governmental system. However it would seem that the creation of this "super committee" would bear similarities to the way the Stuarts ruled England in the 1600s. The King (or in this case the president) rules by edict through his councillors, parliament at that time, existed simply as a body to rubberstamp the needs of the King (democracy was not considered). Obama (or whoever) would simply rule the USA through his council, or "super committee", and they would in fact rule as powers behind the throne. The traditional government of America would, as early British parliament shows, merely be there to rubberstamp the decisions of this 'elite' group.

I may be wrong in my understanding, but it doesn't appear very democratic. However, if as it seems the 'austerity measures in the States, as in Britain, mean cutbacks in services to the poorer element of society (make the poor pay for the errors of the bourgeois),
the end result can only mean a 'win-win' situation for us SNs if we remain unattached to any future 'Popular Front' calls, and free of the guilt by association that the mainstream left have covered themselves in by this "vote for the best that is on offer" crap that is always hurled out at election time.
Isakenaz
Isakenaz
___________________
___________________

Tendency : Socialist-Nationalist
Posts : 646
Reputation : 266
Join date : 2011-04-02
Age : 68
Location : Yorkshire, England

Back to top Go down

The 18th Brumaire of Barack Obama Empty Re: The 18th Brumaire of Barack Obama

Post by Coach Thu Aug 04, 2011 9:54 am

I wouldn't expect this to be an American exceptionalism. Keep your finger on the pulse to see if similar changes in bourgeois political forms have occured/are occuring/are being pushed for by big capitalists in European nations or at the EU level.

Coach
Coach
_________________________
_________________________

Tendency : socialist-nationalist/revolutionary Trotskyist
Posts : 259
Reputation : 133
Join date : 2011-04-02
Location : US Midwest

Back to top Go down

The 18th Brumaire of Barack Obama Empty Re: The 18th Brumaire of Barack Obama

Post by Isakenaz Thu Aug 04, 2011 11:57 am

http://www.socialistphalanx.com/t398-eu-president-warns-debt-crisis-is-spreading#2716

Here is something from Barrusso, does this qualify?
Isakenaz
Isakenaz
___________________
___________________

Tendency : Socialist-Nationalist
Posts : 646
Reputation : 266
Join date : 2011-04-02
Age : 68
Location : Yorkshire, England

Back to top Go down

The 18th Brumaire of Barack Obama Empty Re: The 18th Brumaire of Barack Obama

Post by Sponsored content


Sponsored content


Back to top Go down

Back to top

- Similar topics

 :: General :: Lounge

 
Permissions in this forum:
You cannot reply to topics in this forum