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Post by Red Aegis on Sun Apr 01, 2012 12:41 pm



So I'm thinking that while the language that he's using is different, he seems to agree with much of left wing nationalism without realizing it. I'm curious to think of what everyone has to think of this and any criticisms that they may have. Have fun guys or ladies.

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Post by Celtiberian on Mon Apr 02, 2012 4:45 am

Setting aside my frustration with the incoherent manner by which he conveyed his views in the video, I believe the sort of nationalistic sentiments he expressed are generally shared by much of the nation (and the human species in general, for that matter). However, I wouldn't say it conforms with left-wing nationalism due to the fact that left-wing nationalism is consciously socialist in orientation. Simply put, what left-wing nationalism does is channel those sentiments to utilize for the tasks of socialist development and maintenance.

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Post by Red Aegis on Mon Apr 02, 2012 11:22 am

He was rambling. I just felt like posting it to see what people thought. That said, are you saying that left-wing nationalism is not guiding nationalist sentiment towards socialistic goals?

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Post by Celtiberian on Mon Apr 02, 2012 1:53 pm

Red Aegis wrote:That said, are you saying that left-wing nationalism is not guiding nationalist sentiment towards socialistic goals?

No, you miscomprehended what I wrote. I stated that "left-wing nationalism [channels] those sentiments to utilize for the tasks of socialist development and maintenance."

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