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Post by Ghost Wolf on Thu Jul 21, 2011 5:54 pm

I think this forum is too authoritarian.

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Re: Authoritarian

Post by Celtiberian on Thu Jul 21, 2011 5:59 pm

How so? I'd say we're pretty lenient most of the time.

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Re: Authoritarian

Post by Rev Scare on Fri Jul 22, 2011 2:49 am

Ghost Wolf wrote:I think this forum is too authoritarian.

How do you justify your charge? I will not deny our ever growing aversion to reactionary views. We are not here to coddle childish "National Socialists" with teenage angst and other such riffraff. We are not here to entertain right-wing nationalism.

In order for any democratic process to function for an extended duration, the participants must, at the very least, share fundamental values in common. Reactionaries share no such grounds with us and they along with sentiments deemed right-wing will be suppressed on the main forum. Furthermore, this is not a democracy: it is an internet forum. We expect our guidelines and principles to be adhered to.

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Post by Romanticist on Fri Jul 22, 2011 3:00 am

Rev Scare wrote:How do you justify your charge? I will not deny our ever growing aversion to reactionary views. We are not here to coddle childish "National Socialists" with teenage angst and other such riffraff. We are not here to entertain right-wing nationalism.

In order for any democratic process to function for an extended duration, the participants must, at the very least, share fundamental values in common. Reactionaries share no such grounds with us and they along with sentiments deemed right-wing will be suppressed on the main forum. Furthermore, this is not a democracy: it is an internet forum. We expect our guidelines and principles to be adhered to.

LOL @ "coddle childish "National Socialists" with teenage angst and other such riffraff." Laughing

Something tells me he's not your typical internet national socialist though...

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Post by Rev Scare on Fri Jul 22, 2011 3:07 am

Romanticist wrote:LOL @ "coddle childish "National Socialists" with teenage angst and other such riffraff." Laughing

Something tells me he's not your typical internet national socialist though...

Well, to be perfectly honest with you, this is how I interpret self-described "heterodox" national socialists: they are either transitioning toward a more feasible alternative which eschews such an ideology altogether or remaining essentially reactionary when all else is considered. That most individuals who claim to be atypical national socialists are younger only confirms this in my mind.

It is more appropriate when characterizing us to construe our position as socialist and leaning toward nationalism rather than nationalist in favor of socialism.

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Re: Authoritarian

Post by Molov on Fri Jul 22, 2011 10:38 am

Ghost Wolf wrote:I think this forum is too authoritarian.

Oh please, shut up. Its a digital forum, what the hell do you want to do? Make random posts with cuss words in them?

Obviously reactionaries will be restricted, we know why we are here and we want to discuss with like-minded individuals. Believe me, we know what its like to not have our own place to discuss openly and have our claim made.

Besides, sites like RevLeft or StormFront are even more authoritarian than we are, at least our mods will speak to you and actually offer a valid reason and an opportunity to correct yourself.

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Post by Pantheon Rising on Fri Jul 22, 2011 4:16 pm

Rev Scare wrote:How do you justify your charge? I will not deny our ever growing aversion to reactionary views. We are not here to coddle childish "National Socialists" with teenage angst and other such riffraff. We are not here to entertain right-wing nationalism.

In order for any democratic process to function for an extended duration, the participants must, at the very least, share fundamental values in common. Reactionaries share no such grounds with us and they along with sentiments deemed right-wing will be suppressed on the main forum. Furthermore, this is not a democracy: it is an internet forum. We expect our guidelines and principles to be adhered to.

I think this is exactly what he means Rev Scare. You label him right wing without any sort of evidence or justification. I notice this particularly with you and Admin, you seem to throw the reactionary word around quite a bit. It means little else but heretic to you.
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Post by Rev Scare on Fri Jul 22, 2011 4:39 pm

SSocialistStateSS wrote:I think this is exactly what he means Rev Scare. You label him right wing without any sort of evidence or justification. I notice this particularly with you and Admin, you seem to throw the reactionary word around quite a bit. It means little else but heretic to you.

All of my charges have been based upon direct observations. The proof is in the pudding, so to speak.

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Post by Pantheon Rising on Fri Jul 22, 2011 4:47 pm

Rev Scare wrote:All of my charges have been based upon direct observations. The proof is in the pudding, so to speak.

Show us the proof! This man has been charged with reactionary thoughts! We deserve proof!
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Post by Ghost Wolf on Fri Jul 22, 2011 5:00 pm

Oh yes, my belief in Hitler and NS (namely the 25 point-programme, the basis for original NS) is so reactionary, just because you particular members disagree with it, or because it is the guideline to walk around egg shells on the Hitler and race issue.

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Post by Celtiberian on Fri Jul 22, 2011 7:02 pm

Ghost Wolf wrote:Oh yes, my belief in Hitler and NS (namely the 25 point-programme, the basis for original NS) is so reactionary, just because you particular members disagree with it, or because it is the guideline to walk around egg shells on the Hitler and race issue.

I don't know if I'd go so far as to label the NSDAP's 25 Point Program as having been "reactionary," but it definitively wasn't a document which advocated revolutionary socialism—nowhere in that program does it call for the complete abolition of bourgeois social relations.

If you disagree with the Socialist Phalanx's stance on Hitler or the subject of race, perhaps you should have read the forum's guidelines before joining. There is no shortage of forums online which will tolerate Hitlerism, racism, and so forth (Stormfront, eNationalist, and VNN immediately come to mind), so it's not as though you haven't any options. However, should you desire to stay active on this forum, we simply ask that you confine posts dealing with National Socialism, antisemitism, and so forth, to the reactionary section of the 'Opposing Views' subforum. If you consider this "authoritarian," so be it.

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Re: Authoritarian

Post by Egalitarian on Sat Jul 23, 2011 5:40 pm

6 posts and this forum is already too authoritarian for you? Surprised
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Post by Isakenaz on Sun Jul 24, 2011 1:54 am

Racial Communist wrote:6 posts and this forum is already too authoritarian for you? Surprised

Be carefull you don't get stepped on during the Hitlerite foot stamping display. lol!
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