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‘Class, a false-flag Construct?’

Post by Isakenaz on Thu Jul 14, 2011 7:34 am

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Re: ‘Class, a false-flag Construct?’

Post by seagull on Wed Jul 20, 2011 11:17 am

It was the working class that put Thatcher into power in the belief that they could all live the dream but they are now facing the consequences as that dream begins to crumble. The capitalist class now wan't to replace them with cheaper labour in the form of immigration or to out source to countries where labour is cheaper.


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Re: ‘Class, a false-flag Construct?’

Post by Metal Gear on Wed Jul 20, 2011 11:36 am

Well if you read Marx, he noted that new classes came into existence over time as modes of productions developed and changed. What Marx teaches is class consciousness, not rigidity. As the mode of productions developed, in my mind, it's logical that an updated Marxist analysis would include additional classes.

This is one case where it is good to revise, as opposed to anti-Stalin Trotskyite revisionism.

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Re: ‘Class, a false-flag Construct?’

Post by Jaycm610 on Sun Jan 08, 2012 8:16 pm

THis does complicated matters, and makes it hard for people to see how revolutionary socialism can help advance their goals. However, keep in mind the phrase that is being used nowadays: "we are the 99%" the truth is, a socialist society will improve the quality of life for 99% of the population, it's just getting people to realize that. The way I see it, it's the capitalist class vs. everyone else.
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Re: ‘Class, a false-flag Construct?’

Post by RedSun on Sun Jan 08, 2012 8:25 pm

I'm not sure how the division of exploited workers vs. exploiting capitalists is any less valid now. With the syndicalist revision of capitalist firms, managers and labourers are all on the same side, against the capitalists who do nothing except own all the money and tell others what to do (and, unfortunately, against any workers/managers who think their interests are best served by serving said capitalists).

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